Sep 14
In this show we talk about the Quicksilver framework. This framework was written exclusively for ColdFusion 9. We also talk a little bit about Mura CMS. We will go more into Mura CMS on the next show.
Show Topic links:
http://cfquicksilver.com/
Sep 15, 2009 at 9:46 AM Mike, Dave, thanks for taking the time on your show to discuss Quicksilver. I was happy to hear that it would be a topic on your show. I just got done listening to the broadcast and thought that I might clear up one possible point of confusion; While Quicksilver is definitely intended only for CF9 beta +, developers can write a Quicksilver-supported application entirely in tags if they prefer. I wrote briefly about it a couple of weeks ago here;
http://quicksilver.riaforge.org/blog/index.cfm/2009/8/26/Prefer-Tags
Keep spreading the good word about CF, I will definitely be tuning in for future broadcasts. Cheers!
Sep 16, 2009 at 8:43 AM Hey guys. I was interested in the discussion you had on Mura CMS. I've been using Mura for a while and it's really nice (having used php-based CMS's in the past). On the two CMS features that Michael said were important to him:
1) Extensibility: Mura's architecture makes it dead simple to integrate your own code using "Mura Components" for simple stuff and there's also a plugin architecture to integrate more complex apps. Even though the admin is written in Fusebox you don't have to write your extensions in Fusebox (in fact you can use other frameworks such as Model-Glue, or ColdBox as well as Fusebox, or no framework at all).
2) Theming: Mura does have a theming system which you can use. But it's all really based on CSS, so you can even just bypass it and use any custom design you want (and it's very easy). My first Mura site was a conversion of a static site that I built. After the conversion, the site still looked exactly the same as the orginal static site, which tells you just how flexible you can be "skinning" your Mura site.
I'd suggest you guys maybe get the Mura developers on the podcast for an interview. A few names are Sean Schroeder, Matt Levine, Eddie Ballisty, and Pat Santora from Blue River Interactive (http://www.blueriver.com).
Sep 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM The one thing that Mura has against it is that there are very few examples out there for it. This might really take off if there were some more video demonstrations on how to perform certain tasks.
drupals videos put this to shame
Sep 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM @Ben,
Yes, there are far more resources (docs, tutorials, extensions, etc.) for Drupal than Mura. But, Mura has been an open source project for a small fraction of the time that Drupal has been out, so the comparison is a bit unfair in that respect.
I think the only way for open source CFML projects like Mura will be able to grow is for the CFML community to embrace them and contribute (the same way the PHP community has for their projects).
Sep 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM @Tony, I just happened to notice your comment on CFHour's site. I interviewed the Blue River guys last month at CFUnited, and that interview will be coming up on CFConversations in the next week or two (before MAX). It was a great interview, and you will enjoy it (assuming you listen to CFConversations, too). :-)
Sep 22, 2009 at 7:52 AM @Brian,
Cool! And yes -- I am a loyal listener!